nasa lied to us about the footig in 1992 if you dont belive me such nasa proof ufo look for a youtoob vido and wach it orinly there was 2 lights and then they eited it out i dont care this is not about vido gamesnasa lied to us
are you an alien?nasa lied to us
[QUOTE=''mywii1999'']nasa lied to us about the footig in 1992 if you dont belive me such nasa proof ufo look for a youtoob vido and wach it orinly there was 2 lights and then they eited it out i dont care this is not about vido games[/QUOTE]General discussion what?
Friday, April 16, 2010
Patapon -AAA
[url]http://www.gamespot.com/psp/action/patapon/review.html[/url]Remember everybody, PSP games suck and are never original!Patapon -AAA
bumpPatapon -AAA
wow this shows how ignorant all the sheep on this forum are...
Nice, I was very interested in this game and I am glad that I can finally use my PSP again after nearly half a year of it being a shiny paperweight (imo, last decent game on the PSP was the Disagaea port). However, I don't understand why you are attacking the sheep over this. It's as if though your being a fanboy yourself and purposely trying to get a negative reaction out of them. Instead of trying to cause a conflict, I'd personally be happy over such a positive score.
There'a already a thread about this on the front page. :
|Too little too late for the PSP.
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Too little too late for the PSP. [/QUOTE]even though the psp is doing very well....not ds well but that doesnt mean its doing horrible at all
We know already.
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']Too little too late for the PSP.[/QUOTE]Sales for the PSP have been up as of late, including being right behind the DS in January sales. Get your facts straight.
Already playing this, all I know so far is pata pata pata pon, and pon pon pata pon :P
[QUOTE=''AdamPA1006''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']Too little too late for the PSP.[/QUOTE]Sales for the PSP have been up as of late, including being right behind the DS in January sales. Get your facts straight.[/QUOTE]It's doing well now, but let's see if the PSP can sell consistently for over 2 years like the DS. And by the way did you create this thread to fight with people?
[QUOTE=''Chargeagles1''][QUOTE=''AdamPA1006''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']Too little too late for the PSP.[/QUOTE]Sales for the PSP have been up as of late, including being right behind the DS in January sales. Get your facts straight.[/QUOTE]It's doing well now, but let's see if the PSP can sell consistently for over 2 years like the DS. And by the way did you create this thread to fight with people? [/QUOTE]What do you mean by sell consistently? The PSP has been out for around the same amount of time as the DS..... And I didnt see a thread about Patapon getting a 9 so I made one...
bumpPatapon -AAA
wow this shows how ignorant all the sheep on this forum are...
Nice, I was very interested in this game and I am glad that I can finally use my PSP again after nearly half a year of it being a shiny paperweight (imo, last decent game on the PSP was the Disagaea port). However, I don't understand why you are attacking the sheep over this. It's as if though your being a fanboy yourself and purposely trying to get a negative reaction out of them. Instead of trying to cause a conflict, I'd personally be happy over such a positive score.
There'a already a thread about this on the front page. :
|Too little too late for the PSP.
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology''] Too little too late for the PSP. [/QUOTE]even though the psp is doing very well....not ds well but that doesnt mean its doing horrible at all
We know already.
[QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']Too little too late for the PSP.[/QUOTE]Sales for the PSP have been up as of late, including being right behind the DS in January sales. Get your facts straight.
Already playing this, all I know so far is pata pata pata pon, and pon pon pata pon :P
[QUOTE=''AdamPA1006''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']Too little too late for the PSP.[/QUOTE]Sales for the PSP have been up as of late, including being right behind the DS in January sales. Get your facts straight.[/QUOTE]It's doing well now, but let's see if the PSP can sell consistently for over 2 years like the DS. And by the way did you create this thread to fight with people?
[QUOTE=''Chargeagles1''][QUOTE=''AdamPA1006''][QUOTE=''ReverseCycology'']Too little too late for the PSP.[/QUOTE]Sales for the PSP have been up as of late, including being right behind the DS in January sales. Get your facts straight.[/QUOTE]It's doing well now, but let's see if the PSP can sell consistently for over 2 years like the DS. And by the way did you create this thread to fight with people? [/QUOTE]What do you mean by sell consistently? The PSP has been out for around the same amount of time as the DS..... And I didnt see a thread about Patapon getting a 9 so I made one...
Why wont some ppl understand, movies don ...
im tired of people rampaging about HD-DVD and Blu-ray. Movies are only a small portion of a console. Games on the other hand are a giant portion. and umm maybe if some of you did your research you would know TOSHIBA owns HD not Microsoft. so this could barely if not do nothing to the 360. geeze cows so just stop it all ready.Why wont some ppl understand, movies don ...
True, games are the most important feature. But adding movie player functionality is a nice additional feature. Its basically the reason my wife didnt kill me when I bought a PS3... ''Look honey, Hi-def movies''.Why wont some ppl understand, movies don ...
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HD-DVD vs Blu-ray directly affects gaming..
A) What are games released on? A disc format not digital distribution, in present times we use discs as the medium to play our games.
B) 1 Blu-ray can hold multiple amounts of data compared to a DVD increasing the quality and space available for developers
C) MS really lost big time, especially with there plans to eventually produce games on HD-DVD... they picked the wrong side 'nuff said.
when your console doesn't have any AAAe or GOTY, all you have is blu ray.
Are you kidding? We are at the crossroads of a huge format upgrade and now only one system has the upgrade (bluray), thats a huge deal.Its like a Car that doesnt come with any type of music playing device or speakers...Obviously thats not why people buy a car, they buy it for transportation. But if you honestly think that wouldnt affect the sales between the ones that offer the best technology available for a competitive price and those that have nothing.... youre crazyAnd that analogy isnt nearly as big a deal as consoles as a movie player (now HD movie player)
All this disc crap is perhaps the stupidest thing in video game history.WHO THE HELL CARES?!
I like money. If i can get more value out of one system than another than I will pick the system that has more value to me. I can play great games in HD and watch great movies in HD = win for me the consumer.
[QUOTE=''sexy_chimp'']All this disc crap is perhaps the stupidest thing in video game history.WHO THE HELL CARES?! [/QUOTE]Except when sony starts making an insane amount of money on Blu-ray royalties and can afford to drop the PS3 to $299.
because the movie industry is huge:| And once the PS3 gets the bigger install base (this year is likely) then devs will start developing on PS3 and porting to 360, unlike what is happening right now:)
[QUOTE=''Darthmatt''][QUOTE=''sexy_chimp'']All this disc crap is perhaps the stupidest thing in video game history.WHO THE HELL CARES?! [/QUOTE]Except when sony starts making an insane amount of money on Blu-ray royalties and can afford to drop the PS3 to $299.[/QUOTE]And what would that do, increase sales?Remember though, ''sales don't matter''
Do you know how many people bought a Playstation 2 as their first DVD player and switched to DVD from that? A good majority, if not all, the people I know switched that way. Yes, they were gamers... but there parents used it as a DVD player.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud'']
HD-DVD vs Blu-ray directly affects gaming..
A) What are games released on? A disc format not digital distribution, in present times we use discs as the medium to play our games.
B) 1 Blu-ray can hold multiple amounts of data compared to a DVD increasing the quality and space available for developers
C) MS really lost big time, especially with there plans to eventually produce games on HD-DVD... they picked the wrong side 'nuff said.[/QUOTE] True that.
@ Topic Creator: [URL=http://youfail.org/]YOU FAIL[/URL]
[QUOTE=''sexy_chimp''][QUOTE=''Darthmatt''][QUOTE=''sexy_chimp'']All this disc crap is perhaps the stupidest thing in video game history.WHO THE HELL CARES?! [/QUOTE]Except when sony starts making an insane amount of money on Blu-ray royalties and can afford to drop the PS3 to $299.[/QUOTE]And what would that do, increase sales?Remember though, ''sales don't matter''[/QUOTE]Yeah ''sales dont matter'' ;) especially to 3rd party developers who want to sell a lot of games. ;)
You do realize that the PS3 is a cheaper Blu-Ray player? This is a big plus in sales for the PS3, since people who aren't big gamers will still purchase it for the Blu-Ray. And I can only guess that if there is a large and growing install base of PS3s, then you will start to see some more games.
[QUOTE=''Darthmatt''][QUOTE=''sexy_chimp''][QUOTE=''Darthmatt''][QUOTE=''sexy_chimp'']All this disc crap is perhaps the stupidest thing in video game history.WHO THE HELL CARES?! [/QUOTE]Except when sony starts making an insane amount of money on Blu-ray royalties and can afford to drop the PS3 to $299.[/QUOTE]And what would that do, increase sales?Remember though, ''sales don't matter''[/QUOTE]Yeah ''sales dont matter'' ;) especially to 3rd party developers who want to sell a lot of games. ;)[/QUOTE]Well in that case the Wii kills the PS3 and will always kill the PS3 therefore cows have no argument.
[QUOTE=''RedMasterDX'']You do realize that the PS3 is a cheaper Blu-Ray player? This is a big plus in sales for the PS3, since people who aren't big gamers will still purchase it for the Blu-Ray. And I can only guess that if there is a large and growing install base of PS3s, then you will start to see some more games.[/QUOTE]ive seen $299 blu ray players at bestbuy so technically its not true.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud'']![]()
HD-DVD vs Blu-ray directly affects gaming..
A) What are games released on? A disc format not digital distribution, in present times we use discs as the medium to play our games.
B) 1 Blu-ray can hold multiple amounts of data compared to a DVD increasing the quality and space available for developers
C) MS really lost big time, especially with there plans to eventually produce games on HD-DVD... they picked the wrong side 'nuff said.[/QUOTE]or you can just have more DVD9s...argument fails.
I guess if it was the other way around, you would say something else, so stop hating.
you dont need hd dvd or blu ray to play games
[QUOTE=''credibilityzero''] I guess if it was the other way around, you would say something else, so stop hating.[/QUOTE]no i would not. i have never flaimed a console because of blu ray or HD-DVD. i own both consoles and find them both extremley usefull. but i think the blu-ray on the ps3 is a nice add on..
True, games are the most important feature. But adding movie player functionality is a nice additional feature. Its basically the reason my wife didnt kill me when I bought a PS3... ''Look honey, Hi-def movies''.Why wont some ppl understand, movies don ...
HD-DVD vs Blu-ray directly affects gaming..
A) What are games released on? A disc format not digital distribution, in present times we use discs as the medium to play our games.
B) 1 Blu-ray can hold multiple amounts of data compared to a DVD increasing the quality and space available for developers
C) MS really lost big time, especially with there plans to eventually produce games on HD-DVD... they picked the wrong side 'nuff said.
when your console doesn't have any AAAe or GOTY, all you have is blu ray.
Are you kidding? We are at the crossroads of a huge format upgrade and now only one system has the upgrade (bluray), thats a huge deal.Its like a Car that doesnt come with any type of music playing device or speakers...Obviously thats not why people buy a car, they buy it for transportation. But if you honestly think that wouldnt affect the sales between the ones that offer the best technology available for a competitive price and those that have nothing.... youre crazyAnd that analogy isnt nearly as big a deal as consoles as a movie player (now HD movie player)
All this disc crap is perhaps the stupidest thing in video game history.WHO THE HELL CARES?!
I like money. If i can get more value out of one system than another than I will pick the system that has more value to me. I can play great games in HD and watch great movies in HD = win for me the consumer.
[QUOTE=''sexy_chimp'']All this disc crap is perhaps the stupidest thing in video game history.WHO THE HELL CARES?! [/QUOTE]Except when sony starts making an insane amount of money on Blu-ray royalties and can afford to drop the PS3 to $299.
because the movie industry is huge:| And once the PS3 gets the bigger install base (this year is likely) then devs will start developing on PS3 and porting to 360, unlike what is happening right now:)
[QUOTE=''Darthmatt''][QUOTE=''sexy_chimp'']All this disc crap is perhaps the stupidest thing in video game history.WHO THE HELL CARES?! [/QUOTE]Except when sony starts making an insane amount of money on Blu-ray royalties and can afford to drop the PS3 to $299.[/QUOTE]And what would that do, increase sales?Remember though, ''sales don't matter''
Do you know how many people bought a Playstation 2 as their first DVD player and switched to DVD from that? A good majority, if not all, the people I know switched that way. Yes, they were gamers... but there parents used it as a DVD player.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud'']
HD-DVD vs Blu-ray directly affects gaming..
A) What are games released on? A disc format not digital distribution, in present times we use discs as the medium to play our games.
B) 1 Blu-ray can hold multiple amounts of data compared to a DVD increasing the quality and space available for developers
C) MS really lost big time, especially with there plans to eventually produce games on HD-DVD... they picked the wrong side 'nuff said.[/QUOTE] True that.
@ Topic Creator: [URL=http://youfail.org/]YOU FAIL[/URL]
[QUOTE=''sexy_chimp''][QUOTE=''Darthmatt''][QUOTE=''sexy_chimp'']All this disc crap is perhaps the stupidest thing in video game history.WHO THE HELL CARES?! [/QUOTE]Except when sony starts making an insane amount of money on Blu-ray royalties and can afford to drop the PS3 to $299.[/QUOTE]And what would that do, increase sales?Remember though, ''sales don't matter''[/QUOTE]Yeah ''sales dont matter'' ;) especially to 3rd party developers who want to sell a lot of games. ;)
You do realize that the PS3 is a cheaper Blu-Ray player? This is a big plus in sales for the PS3, since people who aren't big gamers will still purchase it for the Blu-Ray. And I can only guess that if there is a large and growing install base of PS3s, then you will start to see some more games.
[QUOTE=''Darthmatt''][QUOTE=''sexy_chimp''][QUOTE=''Darthmatt''][QUOTE=''sexy_chimp'']All this disc crap is perhaps the stupidest thing in video game history.WHO THE HELL CARES?! [/QUOTE]Except when sony starts making an insane amount of money on Blu-ray royalties and can afford to drop the PS3 to $299.[/QUOTE]And what would that do, increase sales?Remember though, ''sales don't matter''[/QUOTE]Yeah ''sales dont matter'' ;) especially to 3rd party developers who want to sell a lot of games. ;)[/QUOTE]Well in that case the Wii kills the PS3 and will always kill the PS3 therefore cows have no argument.
[QUOTE=''RedMasterDX'']You do realize that the PS3 is a cheaper Blu-Ray player? This is a big plus in sales for the PS3, since people who aren't big gamers will still purchase it for the Blu-Ray. And I can only guess that if there is a large and growing install base of PS3s, then you will start to see some more games.[/QUOTE]ive seen $299 blu ray players at bestbuy so technically its not true.
[QUOTE=''Adrian_Cloud'']
HD-DVD vs Blu-ray directly affects gaming..
A) What are games released on? A disc format not digital distribution, in present times we use discs as the medium to play our games.
B) 1 Blu-ray can hold multiple amounts of data compared to a DVD increasing the quality and space available for developers
C) MS really lost big time, especially with there plans to eventually produce games on HD-DVD... they picked the wrong side 'nuff said.[/QUOTE]or you can just have more DVD9s...argument fails.
I guess if it was the other way around, you would say something else, so stop hating.
you dont need hd dvd or blu ray to play games
[QUOTE=''credibilityzero''] I guess if it was the other way around, you would say something else, so stop hating.[/QUOTE]no i would not. i have never flaimed a console because of blu ray or HD-DVD. i own both consoles and find them both extremley usefull. but i think the blu-ray on the ps3 is a nice add on..
PS3's recent success
I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.PS3's recent success
good post and i tend to agree. until ps3 software moves similar numbers to wii and 360 it's more of the bluray effect than ps3 as a game console. much like what we see with psp being mostly used as a media player. it's got good numbers but doesn't represent the ratio it should for software compared to the DS. (DS is more than it's hardware marketshare compared to psp) PS3's recent success
[QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]While BR is a factor, as it makes the PS3 a more ''valuable'' console than the 360, I strongly disagree that is the ONLY or even the BIGGEST factor. Sony announced their quarterly numbers and showed that over 50 million units of PS3 hardware have been sold. This worked out to a 5.2 attach rate which is almost identicaly to what the 360 had during the exact same time period.So why are people so willing to say PS3 is helped by BR, when clearly just as many games are selling as the competition sold during the same time? If 5.2 attach rate is meaningless, then were people buying the 360 for no reason at all?
ps3 has sold 50 million software units, thats a 5 to 1 attachment rate, thats gotta be better than wii.
Pretty obvious.
TC you do have a point when it relates to US game sales. Here the 360 pushes more software than the psE but elsewhere it is rever sed. In the UK software sales are about even while in Japan a game is pretty much only considered to be released on the PS3 saleswise. The PS3s smallest userbase in comparison to the competition is here in the states. However software sales in recent months have been increasing steadily. This is definitly correlated to more people having PS3s. As the user base continues to grow in America so will its US software sales.n Elsewhere in the world the PS3 is already pushing more than healthy amounts of software.
I disagree. I bought a PS3 recently and while the ability to watch Blu-ray movies influenced my purchase, I ultimately bought a PS3 because of the gaming lineup coming our way in the next few years. Just because the PS3 got off to a slower start than most systems, doesn't mean it is not a legitimate gaming console. Sony consoles have always had some of the best game libraries of any console and I still have faith.
I agree 360, Wii game sales > PS3 blu ray sales > PS3 game sales
I bought my PS3 to play games, thank you. 18 and counting since March 2007.
Sonys big sales hike was boosted by the announcement of the $399 model. Way before the Blu ray victory.I mean I enjoy these attempts to discredit the PS3 as a gaming machine, but please try to put a little effort into it.
[QUOTE=''Shensolidus'']TC you do have a point when it relates to US game sales. Here the 360 pushes more software than the psE but elsewhere it is rever sed. In the UK software sales are about even while in Japan a game is pretty much only considered to be released on the PS3 saleswise. The PS3s smallest userbase in comparison to the competition is here in the states. However software sales in recent months have been increasing steadily. This is definitly correlated to more people having PS3s. As the user base continues to grow in America so will its US software sales.n Elsewhere in the world the PS3 is already pushing more than healthy amounts of software. [/QUOTE]Well, in NA, the 360 has a much larger userbase than the PS3, so one would expect more game sales. However, if you look at game sales of multi-plats on both systems, while the PS3 has half the userbase in NA, the gap in sales is closing. In the past, a 360 game would outsell the PS3 version by 3 or 4 times. With AC we saw the sales more reasonable at 2 to 1. Now, last I heard, games like Burnout aren't even at the 2-1 level. So clearly PS3 owners are buying games.
[QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]Yea, yea, yea. last month the PS3 outsold the 360 by 17% (Check out X-Play's Feb 18th show), the Blu-Ray news was over the weekend, not last month. Stop living in the past, this is a new year, the PS3 already out sold the 360 last month, what make you think the games ARE NOT gonna sell, they brough a PS3 regardless of a Blu-ray player or a game concole, the point is, they got a PS3.
[QUOTE=''CubanBlunt''][QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]Yea, yea, yea. last month the PS3 outsold the 360 by 17% (Check out X-Play's Feb 18th show), the Blu-Ray news was over the weekend, not last month. Stop living in the past, this is a new year, the PS3 already out sold the 360 last month, what make you think the games ARE NOT gonna sell, they brough a PS3 regardless of a Blu-ray player or a game concole, the point is, they got a PS3.[/QUOTE]My point exactly, they bought a PS3 for blu-ray not for games. So, as a gaming console, there is no victory until their game sales show promise. The only one so far is motorstorm because it was bundled.
[QUOTE=''tempest91''][QUOTE=''CubanBlunt''] [QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]Yea, yea, yea. last month the PS3 outsold the 360 by 17% (Check out X-Play's Feb 18th show), the Blu-Ray news was over the weekend, not last month. Stop living in the past, this is a new year, the PS3 already out sold the 360 last month, what make you think the games ARE NOT gonna sell, they brough a PS3 regardless of a Blu-ray player or a game concole, the point is, they got a PS3.[/QUOTE]My point exactly, they bought a PS3 for blu-ray not for games. So, as a gaming console, there is no victory until their game sales show promise. The only one so far is motorstorm because it was bundled. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I've had a PS3 since August or September, and the only game I purchased for it was Stranglehold (I wanted the Hard Boiled blu-ray). The PS3 is an awesome blu-ray player, but since I have a 360, I buy most of my games for that console.
Regardless if you brought a PS3 to play games or movies, Sony only cares about the systems walking out of the door. The PS3 sales ended on a strong note last year and its carrying over into this year, so what is all the hate for? Or is it fear that The PS3 will out do The 360 this year? The 360 fan always want to bring up the past sales, well let's talk about the right now sales. As of January 2008, PS3 = 269,000 UNITS SOLD360 = 230,000 UNITS SOLD http://www.destructoid.com/january-npd-ps3-outsells-xbox-360-70346.phtml
[QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]You need to realize that Cows boast the PS3 for all it can do for the money along with its reliability. This means HD movie play, gaming, online browser, Home, free online etc. All of it! They've been saying that it's a better console to own and Lems have been bragging about all the good 360 games and how the multi-plats look better on 360. Well BFD! PS3 is the best console for the money period. Say what you want, but it's true.
PS2>>>>> The rest
[QUOTE=''lusitanogamer'']I bought my PS3 to play games, thank you. 18 and counting since March 2007.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I have 10 games and 2 BR movies, one of them was free.
As long as syestems are being sold, thats what Devs look at.
[QUOTE=''Vectah_Sigma''] Regardless if you brought a PS3 to play games or movies, Sony only cares about the systems walking out of the door. The PS3 sales ended on a strong note last year and its carrying over into this year, so what is all the hate for? Or is it fear that The PS3 will out do The 360 this year? The 360 fan always want to bring up the past sales, well let's talk about the right now sales. As of January 2008, PS3 = 269,000 UNITS SOLD360 = 230,000 UNITS SOLD http://www.destructoid.com/january-npd-ps3-outsells-xbox-360-70346.phtml[/QUOTE]Part of the problem is that major retailers have been hit with shortages of the 360 since around Christmas, whereas Sony's been able to crank out the 40gig PS3 and get it to those same retailers on a weekly basis. I suspect that the sales data for March will again see the 360 out on top (as far as I can tell Feb. will still show the same shortages). If these trends continue, it's a victory for Sony, but it's kind of like getting excited if the PSP were to outsell the DS right now; the DS has been impossible to find since before Christmas, and while the PSPs aren't easy to get a hold of, they're in much more plentiful demand.
good post and i tend to agree. until ps3 software moves similar numbers to wii and 360 it's more of the bluray effect than ps3 as a game console. much like what we see with psp being mostly used as a media player. it's got good numbers but doesn't represent the ratio it should for software compared to the DS. (DS is more than it's hardware marketshare compared to psp) PS3's recent success
[QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]While BR is a factor, as it makes the PS3 a more ''valuable'' console than the 360, I strongly disagree that is the ONLY or even the BIGGEST factor. Sony announced their quarterly numbers and showed that over 50 million units of PS3 hardware have been sold. This worked out to a 5.2 attach rate which is almost identicaly to what the 360 had during the exact same time period.So why are people so willing to say PS3 is helped by BR, when clearly just as many games are selling as the competition sold during the same time? If 5.2 attach rate is meaningless, then were people buying the 360 for no reason at all?
ps3 has sold 50 million software units, thats a 5 to 1 attachment rate, thats gotta be better than wii.
Pretty obvious.
TC you do have a point when it relates to US game sales. Here the 360 pushes more software than the psE but elsewhere it is rever sed. In the UK software sales are about even while in Japan a game is pretty much only considered to be released on the PS3 saleswise. The PS3s smallest userbase in comparison to the competition is here in the states. However software sales in recent months have been increasing steadily. This is definitly correlated to more people having PS3s. As the user base continues to grow in America so will its US software sales.n Elsewhere in the world the PS3 is already pushing more than healthy amounts of software.
I disagree. I bought a PS3 recently and while the ability to watch Blu-ray movies influenced my purchase, I ultimately bought a PS3 because of the gaming lineup coming our way in the next few years. Just because the PS3 got off to a slower start than most systems, doesn't mean it is not a legitimate gaming console. Sony consoles have always had some of the best game libraries of any console and I still have faith.
I agree 360, Wii game sales > PS3 blu ray sales > PS3 game sales
I bought my PS3 to play games, thank you. 18 and counting since March 2007.
Sonys big sales hike was boosted by the announcement of the $399 model. Way before the Blu ray victory.I mean I enjoy these attempts to discredit the PS3 as a gaming machine, but please try to put a little effort into it.
[QUOTE=''Shensolidus'']TC you do have a point when it relates to US game sales. Here the 360 pushes more software than the psE but elsewhere it is rever sed. In the UK software sales are about even while in Japan a game is pretty much only considered to be released on the PS3 saleswise. The PS3s smallest userbase in comparison to the competition is here in the states. However software sales in recent months have been increasing steadily. This is definitly correlated to more people having PS3s. As the user base continues to grow in America so will its US software sales.n Elsewhere in the world the PS3 is already pushing more than healthy amounts of software. [/QUOTE]Well, in NA, the 360 has a much larger userbase than the PS3, so one would expect more game sales. However, if you look at game sales of multi-plats on both systems, while the PS3 has half the userbase in NA, the gap in sales is closing. In the past, a 360 game would outsell the PS3 version by 3 or 4 times. With AC we saw the sales more reasonable at 2 to 1. Now, last I heard, games like Burnout aren't even at the 2-1 level. So clearly PS3 owners are buying games.
[QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]Yea, yea, yea. last month the PS3 outsold the 360 by 17% (Check out X-Play's Feb 18th show), the Blu-Ray news was over the weekend, not last month. Stop living in the past, this is a new year, the PS3 already out sold the 360 last month, what make you think the games ARE NOT gonna sell, they brough a PS3 regardless of a Blu-ray player or a game concole, the point is, they got a PS3.
[QUOTE=''CubanBlunt''][QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]Yea, yea, yea. last month the PS3 outsold the 360 by 17% (Check out X-Play's Feb 18th show), the Blu-Ray news was over the weekend, not last month. Stop living in the past, this is a new year, the PS3 already out sold the 360 last month, what make you think the games ARE NOT gonna sell, they brough a PS3 regardless of a Blu-ray player or a game concole, the point is, they got a PS3.[/QUOTE]My point exactly, they bought a PS3 for blu-ray not for games. So, as a gaming console, there is no victory until their game sales show promise. The only one so far is motorstorm because it was bundled.
[QUOTE=''tempest91''][QUOTE=''CubanBlunt''] [QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]Yea, yea, yea. last month the PS3 outsold the 360 by 17% (Check out X-Play's Feb 18th show), the Blu-Ray news was over the weekend, not last month. Stop living in the past, this is a new year, the PS3 already out sold the 360 last month, what make you think the games ARE NOT gonna sell, they brough a PS3 regardless of a Blu-ray player or a game concole, the point is, they got a PS3.[/QUOTE]My point exactly, they bought a PS3 for blu-ray not for games. So, as a gaming console, there is no victory until their game sales show promise. The only one so far is motorstorm because it was bundled. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I've had a PS3 since August or September, and the only game I purchased for it was Stranglehold (I wanted the Hard Boiled blu-ray). The PS3 is an awesome blu-ray player, but since I have a 360, I buy most of my games for that console.
Regardless if you brought a PS3 to play games or movies, Sony only cares about the systems walking out of the door. The PS3 sales ended on a strong note last year and its carrying over into this year, so what is all the hate for? Or is it fear that The PS3 will out do The 360 this year? The 360 fan always want to bring up the past sales, well let's talk about the right now sales. As of January 2008, PS3 = 269,000 UNITS SOLD360 = 230,000 UNITS SOLD http://www.destructoid.com/january-npd-ps3-outsells-xbox-360-70346.phtml
[QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]You need to realize that Cows boast the PS3 for all it can do for the money along with its reliability. This means HD movie play, gaming, online browser, Home, free online etc. All of it! They've been saying that it's a better console to own and Lems have been bragging about all the good 360 games and how the multi-plats look better on 360. Well BFD! PS3 is the best console for the money period. Say what you want, but it's true.
PS2>>>>> The rest
[QUOTE=''lusitanogamer'']I bought my PS3 to play games, thank you. 18 and counting since March 2007.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I have 10 games and 2 BR movies, one of them was free.
As long as syestems are being sold, thats what Devs look at.
[QUOTE=''Vectah_Sigma''] Regardless if you brought a PS3 to play games or movies, Sony only cares about the systems walking out of the door. The PS3 sales ended on a strong note last year and its carrying over into this year, so what is all the hate for? Or is it fear that The PS3 will out do The 360 this year? The 360 fan always want to bring up the past sales, well let's talk about the right now sales. As of January 2008, PS3 = 269,000 UNITS SOLD360 = 230,000 UNITS SOLD http://www.destructoid.com/january-npd-ps3-outsells-xbox-360-70346.phtml[/QUOTE]Part of the problem is that major retailers have been hit with shortages of the 360 since around Christmas, whereas Sony's been able to crank out the 40gig PS3 and get it to those same retailers on a weekly basis. I suspect that the sales data for March will again see the 360 out on top (as far as I can tell Feb. will still show the same shortages). If these trends continue, it's a victory for Sony, but it's kind of like getting excited if the PSP were to outsell the DS right now; the DS has been impossible to find since before Christmas, and while the PSPs aren't easy to get a hold of, they're in much more plentiful demand.
New Blue Mars Screenshots
So it's trying to be a buggy failure like it's two predecessors?New Blue Mars Screenshots
its decent
That looks pretty darn impressive.
[QUOTE=''JiveT'']So it's trying to be a buggy failure like it's two predecessors?[/QUOTE]what? JiveT do EVERYONE a favor and don't come in threads that you don't intend to actually contribute to.
the last ss looks meh
[QUOTE=''wildwild'']the last ss looks meh[/QUOTE]yeah it is definitely the worst I have seen. There were a bunch that came from some Korean website a while ago that looked GREAT. They had a picture of a golf course that was really good. They also had the interior of some house. Looked great.
[QUOTE=''horrowhip''] [QUOTE=''JiveT'']So it's trying to be a buggy failure like it's two predecessors?[/QUOTE]what? JiveT do EVERYONE a favor and don't come in threads that you don't intend to actually contribute to.[/QUOTE] I am contributing. What do you want me do praise you for bringing this to our attention? Second Life is an overhyped nothing and Home is stuck in development hell. If you want to sell it you might want to describe it better.
2011 release probably.
[QUOTE=''JiveT''][QUOTE=''horrowhip''] [QUOTE=''JiveT'']So it's trying to be a buggy failure like it's two predecessors?[/QUOTE]what? JiveT do EVERYONE a favor and don't come in threads that you don't intend to actually contribute to.[/QUOTE] I am contributing. What do you want me do praise you for bringing this to our attention? Second Life is an overhyped nothing and Home is stuck in development hell. If you want to sell it you might want to describe it better.[/QUOTE]I am not trying to ''Sell'' anything, just give people a general idea of the point of the game.... Jeez. It is a alternate life game... That is ALL I was trying to do... And you come and make a pointless comment about it being buggy... Seriously, that IS NOT contributing.
Doesn't look like crysis, but it looks good.
You guys, look at it this way. It's an MMO, this WILL be the best looking MMO, maybe not the best looking game, but best looking MMO.
That's pretty good graphics for a mumumvwa
Pandoras Directive - I want to see this ...
This past weekend I loaded up the DOS adventure game Pandora's Directive. While it sure shows it's age in technology the plot and puzzles they put together are unforgiveable. I still get chills thinking about Barry Corbin showing up.Anyone else play through this game? it would be so awesome on a nextgen console or even the wii. The other one they should do is The Beast Within. Pandoras Directive - I want to see this ...
I don't think I've heard of Pandora's Directive, but isn't the ''Beast Within'' a Phantasmagoria title? It's been so long...Pandoras Directive - I want to see this ...
I thought Beast Within was Gabriel Knight...Never played Pandora's Directive. Sounds pretty cool. Remember that old PC developer named ACCESS or something like that?
Pandora's directive was access... 7 different endings. Beast Within was Gabriel Knight. All of the Gabriel Knight games were pretty darn good but The Beat Within was just spot on. Either would probably do very well on a next gen console simply because they are immersive and have great plots plus most gamers under 30 have never played them and those of us over 30 would get them just because they were so awesome.
Oh, I was wrong. ''The Beast Within'' was based on Phantasmagoria's engine, but was unrelated otherwise.It got good reviews.
want to see it on the xbox 720 and ps4? ohh u mean current gen, i was mistaken when u said next gen.
I remember the Access games always looked amazing but I think I only played one of them. I was too young to understand a lot of what was going on. It would be cool if they came out with some kind of collection or started porting them. They were system hog back in the day if memory serves.
I don't think I've heard of Pandora's Directive, but isn't the ''Beast Within'' a Phantasmagoria title? It's been so long...Pandoras Directive - I want to see this ...
I thought Beast Within was Gabriel Knight...Never played Pandora's Directive. Sounds pretty cool. Remember that old PC developer named ACCESS or something like that?
Pandora's directive was access... 7 different endings. Beast Within was Gabriel Knight. All of the Gabriel Knight games were pretty darn good but The Beat Within was just spot on. Either would probably do very well on a next gen console simply because they are immersive and have great plots plus most gamers under 30 have never played them and those of us over 30 would get them just because they were so awesome.
Oh, I was wrong. ''The Beast Within'' was based on Phantasmagoria's engine, but was unrelated otherwise.It got good reviews.
want to see it on the xbox 720 and ps4? ohh u mean current gen, i was mistaken when u said next gen.
I remember the Access games always looked amazing but I think I only played one of them. I was too young to understand a lot of what was going on. It would be cool if they came out with some kind of collection or started porting them. They were system hog back in the day if memory serves.
Left 4 Dead is X360 console exclusive, P ...
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/News-112830.aspxand to think GDC has just barely started.Left 4 Dead is X360 console exclusive, P ...
wow - this is pretty big news :) can't wait - personally i'll be going PC, but still. good to hear.Left 4 Dead is X360 console exclusive, P ...
I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.
i dont get it, was the pc thing supposed to be an insult
Left 4 Dead is starting to look like one hell of a game. It's sad it won't be on PS3. I;d like everyone to be able to experience this one, but oh well. I'll be getting it for PC.
lol@ get out ur pcs
[QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE] ...no, not really. :?
Left 4 Dead looks cool, but i seriously doubt that any PS3 fan would get angry over this.
Wow ''just another shooter'' one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. L4D is a shooter created by the people who created COUNTERSTRIKE the most popular online shooter ever.
[QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE]this isnt like any other shooter, and its made by Valve, which guarentees it to be good (the PC version at least)
It looks cool but I think it feels out of place on a console. I think it's all those CS:S mods I've played...
LOL, ''console exclusive.''What kind of joke are you trying to make? Hyping a game you dont need a 360 to play?
Thats nice indeed.. but
''This is the first time that the press has been able to see the Xbox 360 version, which still has some ways to go to match the PC.''
[QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE]pfft, ok then - just like the 787 is just another plane eh. i can speak in banal generalities without meaning anything too.
Is that news?I thought this to be confirmed for a looooong time.
[QUOTE=''cobrax25''] [QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE] this isnt like any other shooter, and its made by Valve, which guarentees it to be good (the PC version at least)[/QUOTE]yea valve for some reason does not like the ps3....i guess thats what happens when you make only great games for the PC... and for some to say the 360 version will be just as good may be true....but it wont have constant updates like the PC version will have.....and its good to know its based on the source engine (like all valve games today) so my computer wont have a hard time running it....i mean any computer with a 128 MB video card should be able to run this game fine
[QUOTE=''Verge_6''][QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE] ...no, not really. :?[/QUOTE] Well for me at least it's pretty derivative. I'm not really a big FPS fan. I found COD4 sort of dull.
''The other big news from this article is that a third game company named Certain Affinity (in addition to Valve and Turtle Rock Studios) is also handling the Xbox 360 version.''I'm confused. :? Who is making what? Is Valve developing anything or just publishing? Anyway, it looks and sounds cool, one of the few shooters this year I'm interested in, and IF Valve is developing it, then it should deliver.
I have a 360 and PS3 and I could care less for this game
[QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE]yeah just another shooter. like MGS, haze, killzone2,...
wow - this is pretty big news :) can't wait - personally i'll be going PC, but still. good to hear.Left 4 Dead is X360 console exclusive, P ...
I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.
i dont get it, was the pc thing supposed to be an insult
Left 4 Dead is starting to look like one hell of a game. It's sad it won't be on PS3. I;d like everyone to be able to experience this one, but oh well. I'll be getting it for PC.
lol@ get out ur pcs
[QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE] ...no, not really. :?
Left 4 Dead looks cool, but i seriously doubt that any PS3 fan would get angry over this.
Wow ''just another shooter'' one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. L4D is a shooter created by the people who created COUNTERSTRIKE the most popular online shooter ever.
[QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE]this isnt like any other shooter, and its made by Valve, which guarentees it to be good (the PC version at least)
It looks cool but I think it feels out of place on a console. I think it's all those CS:S mods I've played...
LOL, ''console exclusive.''What kind of joke are you trying to make? Hyping a game you dont need a 360 to play?
Thats nice indeed.. but
''This is the first time that the press has been able to see the Xbox 360 version, which still has some ways to go to match the PC.''
[QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE]pfft, ok then - just like the 787 is just another plane eh. i can speak in banal generalities without meaning anything too.
Is that news?I thought this to be confirmed for a looooong time.
[QUOTE=''cobrax25''] [QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE] this isnt like any other shooter, and its made by Valve, which guarentees it to be good (the PC version at least)[/QUOTE]yea valve for some reason does not like the ps3....i guess thats what happens when you make only great games for the PC... and for some to say the 360 version will be just as good may be true....but it wont have constant updates like the PC version will have.....and its good to know its based on the source engine (like all valve games today) so my computer wont have a hard time running it....i mean any computer with a 128 MB video card should be able to run this game fine
[QUOTE=''Verge_6''][QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE] ...no, not really. :?[/QUOTE] Well for me at least it's pretty derivative. I'm not really a big FPS fan. I found COD4 sort of dull.
''The other big news from this article is that a third game company named Certain Affinity (in addition to Valve and Turtle Rock Studios) is also handling the Xbox 360 version.''I'm confused. :? Who is making what? Is Valve developing anything or just publishing? Anyway, it looks and sounds cool, one of the few shooters this year I'm interested in, and IF Valve is developing it, then it should deliver.
I have a 360 and PS3 and I could care less for this game
[QUOTE=''espoac'']I don't think cows are really envious of that game. It's just another shooter.[/QUOTE]yeah just another shooter. like MGS, haze, killzone2,...
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