The Next Generation

Right now we are in the thick of the current generation and i must say that i'm pleased with the advancements and innovations that were made. undoubtably sony, microsoft, and nintendo are all hard at work on their next creations and most likely within the next 2-3 years we are going to see leaked information. what do you think they will turn out to be, this time during 2002 i was fairly accurate concerning the 360s specs.many people think the jump from PS2 to PS3 was not as big as from N64 to PS2 but i think they are wrong compare Killzone 2 to Killzone and the jump is very large, same with Halo to Halo 3 and i expect the same next gen.PS1: 32 bit processorN64: 64 bit processorPS2: 233mhz Emotion EngineXbox: 733mhz P3, Nvidia gpu360: 3 power pc cores @3.2Ghz, 500mhz ATI GpuPS3: Cell @3.2Ghz, 550mhz RSX XBOX 360 II: 12 Power Pc cores @6.0Ghz 32nm fab, ATI Quad custom gpu 600 unified pipelines,SM 5.0+, DX11 capable, 2Ghz core speed, 5GB Gddr5 RAM. total performance = 8 tereflopsBlue - Ray Drive 10x read speed. 200Gb HDGPU supports 720p,1080i,1080p, 1440p SHDTVInterface= reworked controller with voice command and next generation motion sensing.everything i wrote is very realistic and feasible at a $399-499 price.The Next Generation
[QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero'']Right now we are in the thick of the current generation and i must say that i'm pleased with the advancements and innovations that were made. undoubtably sony, microsoft, and nintendo are all hard at work on their next creations and most likely within the next 2-3 years we are going to see leaked information. what do you think they will turn out to be, this time during 2002 i was fairly accurate concerning the 360s specs.many people think the jump from PS2 to PS3 was not as big as from N64 to PS2 but i think they are wrong compare Killzone 2 to Killzone and the jump is very large, same with Halo to Halo 3 and i expect the same next gen.PS1: 32 bit processorN64: 64 bit processorPS2: 233mhz Emotion EngineXbox: 733mhz P3, Nvidia gpu360: 3 power pc cores @3.2Ghz, 500mhz ATI GpuPS3: Cell @3.2Ghz, 550mhz RSXXBOX 360 II: 12 Power Pc cores @6.0Ghz 32nm fab, ATI Quad custom gpu 600 unified pipelines,SM 5.0+, DX11 capable, 2Ghz core speed, 5GB Gddr5 RAM. total performance = 8 tereflopsBlue - Ray Drive 10x read speed. 200Gb HDGPU supports 720p,1080i,1080p, 1440p SHDTVInterface= reworked controller with voice command and next generation motion sensing.everything i wrote is very realistic and feasible at a $399-499 price.[/QUOTE]X360 has heat problems already. Running at that clock speed will probably make it explode.The Next Generation
[QUOTE=''jangojay''][QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''] Right now we are in the thick of the current generation and i must say that i'm pleased with the advancements and innovations that were made. undoubtably sony, microsoft, and nintendo are all hard at work on their next creations and most likely within the next 2-3 years we are going to see leaked information. what do you think they will turn out to be, this time during 2002 i was fairly accurate concerning the 360s specs.many people think the jump from PS2 to PS3 was not as big as from N64 to PS2 but i think they are wrong compare Killzone 2 to Killzone and the jump is very large, same with Halo to Halo 3 and i expect the same next gen.PS1: 32 bit processorN64: 64 bit processorPS2: 233mhz Emotion EngineXbox: 733mhz P3, Nvidia gpu360: 3 power pc cores @3.2Ghz, 500mhz ATI GpuPS3: Cell @3.2Ghz, 550mhz RSX XBOX 360 II: 12 Power Pc cores @6.0Ghz 32nm fab, ATI Quad custom gpu 600 unified pipelines,SM 5.0+, DX11 capable, 2Ghz core speed, 5GB Gddr5 RAM. total performance = 8 tereflopsBlue - Ray Drive 10x read speed. 200Gb HDGPU supports 720p,1080i,1080p, 1440p SHDTVInterface= reworked controller with voice command and next generation motion sensing.everything i wrote is very realistic and feasible at a $399-499 price.[/QUOTE]X360 has heat problems already. Running at that clock speed will probably make it explode.[/QUOTE]well PS3 has no heat problems and im sure MS will adress that in their next system and whos to say cooling technology wont improve in 4-5 years from now. also these cpu's are getting smaller and smaller that equels more performance and less heat, think of the advantage the core 2 duo had over the Athlon X2 and Pentium 4
[QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''][QUOTE=''jangojay''][QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''] Right now we are in the thick of the current generation and i must say that i'm pleased with the advancements and innovations that were made. undoubtably sony, microsoft, and nintendo are all hard at work on their next creations and most likely within the next 2-3 years we are going to see leaked information. what do you think they will turn out to be, this time during 2002 i was fairly accurate concerning the 360s specs.many people think the jump from PS2 to PS3 was not as big as from N64 to PS2 but i think they are wrong compare Killzone 2 to Killzone and the jump is very large, same with Halo to Halo 3 and i expect the same next gen.PS1: 32 bit processorN64: 64 bit processorPS2: 233mhz Emotion EngineXbox: 733mhz P3, Nvidia gpu360: 3 power pc cores @3.2Ghz, 500mhz ATI GpuPS3: Cell @3.2Ghz, 550mhz RSXXBOX 360 II: 12 Power Pc cores @6.0Ghz 32nm fab, ATI Quad custom gpu 600 unified pipelines,SM 5.0+, DX11 capable, 2Ghz core speed, 5GB Gddr5 RAM. total performance = 8 tereflopsBlue - Ray Drive 10x read speed. 200Gb HDGPU supports 720p,1080i,1080p, 1440p SHDTVInterface= reworked controller with voice command and next generation motion sensing.everything i wrote is very realistic and feasible at a $399-499 price.[/QUOTE]X360 has heat problems already. Running at that clock speed will probably make it explode.[/QUOTE]well PS3 has no heat problems and im sure MS will adress that in their next system and whos to say cooling technology wont improve in 4-5 years from now. also these cpu's are getting smaller and smaller that equels more performance and less heat, think of the advantage the core 2 duo had over the Athlon X2 and Pentium 4[/QUOTE]Well my personal opinion on dual core processors is that there isn't suffiecient cooling to run single cores @ rediculous clock speeds like 6ghz. So dual cores were evented to keep the clock speeds down but performance to go up.
Is the ati 360 gpu right? i thought it was 600mhz or 450 mhz...or well doesn't matter.Yeah next-gen will be amazing....who knows? alls i can say is smaller, wider screens and actual 3d images, like a tv with 2 layered lcd screens, one partially see thro, so u get a sense of real dimension... yeah...the console will be very powerful when released. like these ones when they were release, but now they are like the average gaming rig and soon to be a poor ones at that...anyways, yep.oh i think the hdds will be solid state, easy flash memory. The ram as well will rely on that, cause there will only be 5 gigs of it.
[QUOTE=''jangojay''][QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''][QUOTE=''jangojay''][QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''] Right now we are in the thick of the current generation and i must say that i'm pleased with the advancements and innovations that were made. undoubtably sony, microsoft, and nintendo are all hard at work on their next creations and most likely within the next 2-3 years we are going to see leaked information. what do you think they will turn out to be, this time during 2002 i was fairly accurate concerning the 360s specs.many people think the jump from PS2 to PS3 was not as big as from N64 to PS2 but i think they are wrong compare Killzone 2 to Killzone and the jump is very large, same with Halo to Halo 3 and i expect the same next gen.PS1: 32 bit processorN64: 64 bit processorPS2: 233mhz Emotion EngineXbox: 733mhz P3, Nvidia gpu360: 3 power pc cores @3.2Ghz, 500mhz ATI GpuPS3: Cell @3.2Ghz, 550mhz RSX XBOX 360 II: 12 Power Pc cores @6.0Ghz 32nm fab, ATI Quad custom gpu 600 unified pipelines,SM 5.0+, DX11 capable, 2Ghz core speed, 5GB Gddr5 RAM. total performance = 8 tereflopsBlue - Ray Drive 10x read speed. 200Gb HDGPU supports 720p,1080i,1080p, 1440p SHDTVInterface= reworked controller with voice command and next generation motion sensing.everything i wrote is very realistic and feasible at a $399-499 price.[/QUOTE]X360 has heat problems already. Running at that clock speed will probably make it explode.[/QUOTE]well PS3 has no heat problems and im sure MS will adress that in their next system and whos to say cooling technology wont improve in 4-5 years from now. also these cpu's are getting smaller and smaller that equels more performance and less heat, think of the advantage the core 2 duo had over the Athlon X2 and Pentium 4[/QUOTE] Well my personal opinion on dual core processors is that there isn't suffiecient cooling to run single cores @ rediculous clock speeds like 6ghz. So dual cores were evented to keep the clock speeds down but performance to go up.[/QUOTE]what about this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11215001/ and this was announced in 2006. not to mention that protein based processors will eventually fase out silicon and then Carbon will fase that out with performance gains up to 100X, but that is most likely 10+ years off.
[QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''][QUOTE=''jangojay''][QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''][QUOTE=''jangojay''][QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''] Right now we are in the thick of the current generation and i must say that i'm pleased with the advancements and innovations that were made. undoubtably sony, microsoft, and nintendo are all hard at work on their next creations and most likely within the next 2-3 years we are going to see leaked information. what do you think they will turn out to be, this time during 2002 i was fairly accurate concerning the 360s specs.many people think the jump from PS2 to PS3 was not as big as from N64 to PS2 but i think they are wrong compare Killzone 2 to Killzone and the jump is very large, same with Halo to Halo 3 and i expect the same next gen.PS1: 32 bit processorN64: 64 bit processorPS2: 233mhz Emotion EngineXbox: 733mhz P3, Nvidia gpu360: 3 power pc cores @3.2Ghz, 500mhz ATI GpuPS3: Cell @3.2Ghz, 550mhz RSXXBOX 360 II: 12 Power Pc cores @6.0Ghz 32nm fab, ATI Quad custom gpu 600 unified pipelines,SM 5.0+, DX11 capable, 2Ghz core speed, 5GB Gddr5 RAM. total performance = 8 tereflopsBlue - Ray Drive 10x read speed. 200Gb HDGPU supports 720p,1080i,1080p, 1440p SHDTVInterface= reworked controller with voice command and next generation motion sensing.everything i wrote is very realistic and feasible at a $399-499 price.[/QUOTE]X360 has heat problems already. Running at that clock speed will probably make it explode.[/QUOTE]well PS3 has no heat problems and im sure MS will adress that in their next system and whos to say cooling technology wont improve in 4-5 years from now. also these cpu's are getting smaller and smaller that equels more performance and less heat, think of the advantage the core 2 duo had over the Athlon X2 and Pentium 4[/QUOTE]Well my personal opinion on dual core processors is that there isn't suffiecient cooling to run single cores @ rediculous clock speeds like 6ghz. So dual cores were evented to keep the clock speeds down but performance to go up.[/QUOTE]what about this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11215001/ and this was announced in 2006. not to mention that protein based processors will eventually fase out silicon and then Carbon will fase that out with performance gains up to 100X, but that is most likely 10+ years off.[/QUOTE] thanks for the linkage :)

[QUOTE=''LibertySaint''] Is the ati 360 gpu right? i thought it was 600mhz or 450 mhz...or well doesn't matter.Yeah next-gen will be amazing....who knows? alls i can say is smaller, wider screens and actual 3d images, like a tv with 2 layered lcd screens, one partially see thro, so u get a sense of real dimension... yeah...the console will be very powerful when released. like these ones when they were release, but now they are like the average gaming rig and soon to be a poor ones at that...anyways, yep.oh i think the hdds will be solid state, easy flash memory. The ram as well will rely on that, cause there will only be 5 gigs of it.[/QUOTE]can u elaborate on this solid state hard drive, btw Xenos(360 GPU) is clocked at 500mhz, i hear rumors that RSX was dumbed down to 500mhz from 550mhz but i'm sure sony wont say much.
[QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''][QUOTE=''LibertySaint''] Is the ati 360 gpu right? i thought it was 600mhz or 450 mhz...or well doesn't matter.Yeah next-gen will be amazing....who knows? alls i can say is smaller, wider screens and actual 3d images, like a tv with 2 layered lcd screens, one partially see thro, so u get a sense of real dimension... yeah...the console will be very powerful when released. like these ones when they were release, but now they are like the average gaming rig and soon to be a poor ones at that...anyways, yep.oh i think the hdds will be solid state, easy flash memory. The ram as well will rely on that, cause there will only be 5 gigs of it.[/QUOTE]can u elaborate on this solid state hard drive, btw Xenos(360 GPU) is clocked at 500mhz, i hear rumors that RSX was dumbed down to 500mhz from 550mhz but i'm sure sony wont say much.[/QUOTE]k, your sure on that then, nm, i though the xenos was anything else but 500mhz! oh well, again it doesn't matter.Well solid state hard drives are hdds that don't run on a type of disc, they are like flash memory ram, they tho are built differently and usually have some elaborate method in storing the data....but anyways, solid state hdds, u can buy now in lap tops, desktops, but they are all just say expensive! 64gb for 200 bucks in a lap top, for a desktop is a 200gb solid state for about 300 bucks, don't quote on the exact prices tho...but yeah solid state hdds pull up data practically instantly, as fast as the cpu can read it and the front side bus can keep up with the transport of it. hdds are used for caching now a days right? but they are only used for saying caching of a cut scene or a Vo's, and they still take about half a second to 2 to load, wth solid state hdds, it can reach speeds of xdr ram and faster....
[QUOTE=''LibertySaint''][QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''][QUOTE=''LibertySaint''] Is the ati 360 gpu right? i thought it was 600mhz or 450 mhz...or well doesn't matter.Yeah next-gen will be amazing....who knows? alls i can say is smaller, wider screens and actual 3d images, like a tv with 2 layered lcd screens, one partially see thro, so u get a sense of real dimension... yeah...the console will be very powerful when released. like these ones when they were release, but now they are like the average gaming rig and soon to be a poor ones at that...anyways, yep.oh i think the hdds will be solid state, easy flash memory. The ram as well will rely on that, cause there will only be 5 gigs of it.[/QUOTE]can u elaborate on this solid state hard drive, btw Xenos(360 GPU) is clocked at 500mhz, i hear rumors that RSX was dumbed down to 500mhz from 550mhz but i'm sure sony wont say much.[/QUOTE]k, your sure on that then, nm, i though the xenos was anything else but 500mhz! oh well, again it doesn't matter.Well solid state hard drives are hdds that don't run on a type of disc, they are like flash memory ram, they tho are built differently and usually have some elaborate method in storing the data....but anyways, solid state hdds, u can buy now in lap tops, desktops, but they are all just say expensive! 64gb for 200 bucks in a lap top, for a desktop is a 200gb solid state for about 300 bucks, don't quote on the exact prices tho...but yeah solid state hdds pull up data practically instantly, as fast as the cpu can read it and the front side bus can keep up with the transport of it. hdds are used for caching now a days right? but they are only used for saying caching of a cut scene or a Vo's, and they still take about half a second to 2 to load, wth solid state hdds, it can reach speeds of xdr ram and faster....[/QUOTE]OIC thanks for the info, but what if Holographic Memory is used:shock:
[QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''][QUOTE=''LibertySaint''][QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''][QUOTE=''LibertySaint''] Is the ati 360 gpu right? i thought it was 600mhz or 450 mhz...or well doesn't matter.Yeah next-gen will be amazing....who knows? alls i can say is smaller, wider screens and actual 3d images, like a tv with 2 layered lcd screens, one partially see thro, so u get a sense of real dimension... yeah...the console will be very powerful when released. like these ones when they were release, but now they are like the average gaming rig and soon to be a poor ones at that...anyways, yep.oh i think the hdds will be solid state, easy flash memory. The ram as well will rely on that, cause there will only be 5 gigs of it.[/QUOTE]can u elaborate on this solid state hard drive, btw Xenos(360 GPU) is clocked at 500mhz, i hear rumors that RSX was dumbed down to 500mhz from 550mhz but i'm sure sony wont say much.[/QUOTE]k, your sure on that then, nm, i though the xenos was anything else but 500mhz! oh well, again it doesn't matter.Well solid state hard drives are hdds that don't run on a type of disc, they are like flash memory ram, they tho are built differently and usually have some elaborate method in storing the data....but anyways, solid state hdds, u can buy now in lap tops, desktops, but they are all just say expensive! 64gb for 200 bucks in a lap top, for a desktop is a 200gb solid state for about 300 bucks, don't quote on the exact prices tho...but yeah solid state hdds pull up data practically instantly, as fast as the cpu can read it and the front side bus can keep up with the transport of it. hdds are used for caching now a days right? but they are only used for saying caching of a cut scene or a Vo's, and they still take about half a second to 2 to load, wth solid state hdds, it can reach speeds of xdr ram and faster....[/QUOTE]OIC thanks for the info, but what if Holographic Memory is used:shock:[/QUOTE] i would have no idea !! but wouldn't that be as expensive as bejesus? mabe they make there own patented cpu/gou as well, unlike having the cpu and gpu differnet and relys on circuts off of the mobo transfer data, the cpu and gpu would be one, heck look at the ageia physics cards they are really old gpu cards running physics calculations and since nvidia bought aegia, the new 8XXX seriers and newer cards have had driver updates that allow them to do physics, physics used to be a cpu only thing right? well now gpu are doing that...so mabe microsoft would want to make a really well made cpu/gpu hybrid, something that sony wanted to achieve with the cell processor, but didn;t because of the time constraint, so they sold the patent after the ps3 was released to toshiba, which is advancing the cell, ibm has servers using newer cell technology......but mabe ms would buy that from toshiba, or pay them to research in to it more so eh? or mabe thats why sony sold it to toshiba, so toshiba could finish the idea and it could be used in the ps4, heck the console maker doesn't have to make the cpu, look at the 360, ibm literally mabe every last detail on it, but then MS just bought it up after asking for it...so mabe thats what sony is doing, getting research done and then is going to snacth it back and call it the enigma cell or something....lol yeah anyways, where was i? ranting! lol with bad grammer tooz!
I can't wait for like 3 gens from now, just imagine the technology in those! Or even 5 gens from now. Can anyone say quantom computing? Just think of those eye dropping graphics. It will practically be lifelike once we get to that level....

Thinking of the future makes me droooooooool
[QUOTE=''dipper145'']I can't wait for like 3 gens from now, just imagine the technology in those! Or even 5 gens from now. Can anyone say quantom computing? Just think of those eye dropping graphics. It will practically be lifelike once we get to that level....

Thinking of the future makes me droooooooool[/QUOTE]ohhh myy gooooshhh yeah i'm drooling thinking about that and the tech behind it, imagine the time it would take and knowledge u would need to design the hardware!!! man i wanna work in hardware biz at amd or something.....
[QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''] XBOX 360 II: 12 Power Pc cores @6.0Ghz 32nm fab, ATI Quad custom gpu 600 unified pipelines,SM 5.0+, DX11 capable, 2Ghz core speed, 5GB Gddr5 RAM. total performance = 8 tereflops[/QUOTE]Its not about cpu clock speed these days.An Intel core 2 duo at 1.8ghz is faster than the 3ghz cpu in the 360.
[QUOTE=''Cranler''][QUOTE=''Nameless-Hero''] XBOX 360 II: 12 Power Pc cores @6.0Ghz 32nm fab, ATI Quad custom gpu 600 unified pipelines,SM 5.0+, DX11 capable, 2Ghz core speed, 5GB Gddr5 RAM. total performance = 8 tereflops[/QUOTE]Its not about cpu clock speed these days.An Intel core 2 duo at 1.8ghz is faster than the 3ghz cpu in the 360. [/QUOTE]Depends which C2D you're on about. The ones at 1.8ghz, no are not faster. But the better spec C2Ds with the larger cache memory perform very very well in comparison.
lol that is so ridiculousat most next gen the consoles will have 2 gigs of ram, more is completely unnecessary.also, their processor speeds will not be above 5 ghzit's the graphics cards that will make a huge difference, i'm guessing they are likely to be based on nvidia's GeForce 9 series.