I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.PS3's recent success
good post and i tend to agree. until ps3 software moves similar numbers to wii and 360 it's more of the bluray effect than ps3 as a game console. much like what we see with psp being mostly used as a media player. it's got good numbers but doesn't represent the ratio it should for software compared to the DS. (DS is more than it's hardware marketshare compared to psp) PS3's recent success
[QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]While BR is a factor, as it makes the PS3 a more ''valuable'' console than the 360, I strongly disagree that is the ONLY or even the BIGGEST factor. Sony announced their quarterly numbers and showed that over 50 million units of PS3 hardware have been sold. This worked out to a 5.2 attach rate which is almost identicaly to what the 360 had during the exact same time period.So why are people so willing to say PS3 is helped by BR, when clearly just as many games are selling as the competition sold during the same time? If 5.2 attach rate is meaningless, then were people buying the 360 for no reason at all?
ps3 has sold 50 million software units, thats a 5 to 1 attachment rate, thats gotta be better than wii.
Pretty obvious.
TC you do have a point when it relates to US game sales. Here the 360 pushes more software than the psE but elsewhere it is rever sed. In the UK software sales are about even while in Japan a game is pretty much only considered to be released on the PS3 saleswise. The PS3s smallest userbase in comparison to the competition is here in the states. However software sales in recent months have been increasing steadily. This is definitly correlated to more people having PS3s. As the user base continues to grow in America so will its US software sales.n Elsewhere in the world the PS3 is already pushing more than healthy amounts of software.
I disagree. I bought a PS3 recently and while the ability to watch Blu-ray movies influenced my purchase, I ultimately bought a PS3 because of the gaming lineup coming our way in the next few years. Just because the PS3 got off to a slower start than most systems, doesn't mean it is not a legitimate gaming console. Sony consoles have always had some of the best game libraries of any console and I still have faith.
I agree 360, Wii game sales > PS3 blu ray sales > PS3 game sales
I bought my PS3 to play games, thank you. 18 and counting since March 2007.
Sonys big sales hike was boosted by the announcement of the $399 model. Way before the Blu ray victory.I mean I enjoy these attempts to discredit the PS3 as a gaming machine, but please try to put a little effort into it.
[QUOTE=''Shensolidus'']TC you do have a point when it relates to US game sales. Here the 360 pushes more software than the psE but elsewhere it is rever sed. In the UK software sales are about even while in Japan a game is pretty much only considered to be released on the PS3 saleswise. The PS3s smallest userbase in comparison to the competition is here in the states. However software sales in recent months have been increasing steadily. This is definitly correlated to more people having PS3s. As the user base continues to grow in America so will its US software sales.n Elsewhere in the world the PS3 is already pushing more than healthy amounts of software. [/QUOTE]Well, in NA, the 360 has a much larger userbase than the PS3, so one would expect more game sales. However, if you look at game sales of multi-plats on both systems, while the PS3 has half the userbase in NA, the gap in sales is closing. In the past, a 360 game would outsell the PS3 version by 3 or 4 times. With AC we saw the sales more reasonable at 2 to 1. Now, last I heard, games like Burnout aren't even at the 2-1 level. So clearly PS3 owners are buying games.
[QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]Yea, yea, yea. last month the PS3 outsold the 360 by 17% (Check out X-Play's Feb 18th show), the Blu-Ray news was over the weekend, not last month. Stop living in the past, this is a new year, the PS3 already out sold the 360 last month, what make you think the games ARE NOT gonna sell, they brough a PS3 regardless of a Blu-ray player or a game concole, the point is, they got a PS3.
[QUOTE=''CubanBlunt''][QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]Yea, yea, yea. last month the PS3 outsold the 360 by 17% (Check out X-Play's Feb 18th show), the Blu-Ray news was over the weekend, not last month. Stop living in the past, this is a new year, the PS3 already out sold the 360 last month, what make you think the games ARE NOT gonna sell, they brough a PS3 regardless of a Blu-ray player or a game concole, the point is, they got a PS3.[/QUOTE]My point exactly, they bought a PS3 for blu-ray not for games. So, as a gaming console, there is no victory until their game sales show promise. The only one so far is motorstorm because it was bundled.
[QUOTE=''tempest91''][QUOTE=''CubanBlunt''] [QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]Yea, yea, yea. last month the PS3 outsold the 360 by 17% (Check out X-Play's Feb 18th show), the Blu-Ray news was over the weekend, not last month. Stop living in the past, this is a new year, the PS3 already out sold the 360 last month, what make you think the games ARE NOT gonna sell, they brough a PS3 regardless of a Blu-ray player or a game concole, the point is, they got a PS3.[/QUOTE]My point exactly, they bought a PS3 for blu-ray not for games. So, as a gaming console, there is no victory until their game sales show promise. The only one so far is motorstorm because it was bundled. [/QUOTE]Yeah, I've had a PS3 since August or September, and the only game I purchased for it was Stranglehold (I wanted the Hard Boiled blu-ray). The PS3 is an awesome blu-ray player, but since I have a 360, I buy most of my games for that console.
Regardless if you brought a PS3 to play games or movies, Sony only cares about the systems walking out of the door. The PS3 sales ended on a strong note last year and its carrying over into this year, so what is all the hate for? Or is it fear that The PS3 will out do The 360 this year? The 360 fan always want to bring up the past sales, well let's talk about the right now sales. As of January 2008, PS3 = 269,000 UNITS SOLD360 = 230,000 UNITS SOLD http://www.destructoid.com/january-npd-ps3-outsells-xbox-360-70346.phtml
[QUOTE=''tempest91'']I do acknowledge the recent success of the PS3, but before cows jump all over this with ''teh sales, omg teh sales'' we need to realize that the success is caused almost entirely by the recent victory of Blu-ray and not of it's role as a gaming console. As PS3 sales have risen, their game sales have not, and the 360 and Wii still dominate this area. This, in effect, does nothing for the value of the PS3 as a console. Developers consider user base as it relates to previous game sales. So this recent success should not be taken as a victory over the 360 in terms of gaming, just as it is: Blu-ray>HD-DVD. That is all.[/QUOTE]You need to realize that Cows boast the PS3 for all it can do for the money along with its reliability. This means HD movie play, gaming, online browser, Home, free online etc. All of it! They've been saying that it's a better console to own and Lems have been bragging about all the good 360 games and how the multi-plats look better on 360. Well BFD! PS3 is the best console for the money period. Say what you want, but it's true.
PS2>>>>> The rest
[QUOTE=''lusitanogamer'']I bought my PS3 to play games, thank you. 18 and counting since March 2007.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I have 10 games and 2 BR movies, one of them was free.
As long as syestems are being sold, thats what Devs look at.
[QUOTE=''Vectah_Sigma''] Regardless if you brought a PS3 to play games or movies, Sony only cares about the systems walking out of the door. The PS3 sales ended on a strong note last year and its carrying over into this year, so what is all the hate for? Or is it fear that The PS3 will out do The 360 this year? The 360 fan always want to bring up the past sales, well let's talk about the right now sales. As of January 2008, PS3 = 269,000 UNITS SOLD360 = 230,000 UNITS SOLD http://www.destructoid.com/january-npd-ps3-outsells-xbox-360-70346.phtml[/QUOTE]Part of the problem is that major retailers have been hit with shortages of the 360 since around Christmas, whereas Sony's been able to crank out the 40gig PS3 and get it to those same retailers on a weekly basis. I suspect that the sales data for March will again see the 360 out on top (as far as I can tell Feb. will still show the same shortages). If these trends continue, it's a victory for Sony, but it's kind of like getting excited if the PSP were to outsell the DS right now; the DS has been impossible to find since before Christmas, and while the PSPs aren't easy to get a hold of, they're in much more plentiful demand.
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