Molyneux despairs at ''tragic'' ...

Only last week Cliffy B said PC gaming was more or less dead, now we have Peter Molyneux calling it tragic. I think it's time for hermits to open their eyes and see that PC gaming is a shadow of its former self and will soon be eclipsed by console gaming as the only relevant gaming platform.Warcraft, The Sims ''sucking the air out of PC market,'' says Lionhead boss

Lionhead boss Peter Molyneux has said that the PC gaming market is in a tragic state, with two blockbusters hogging sales and stagnation in the casual market.

Speaking in an interview to our sister site Eurogamer.net, to be published later this week, Molyneux was sharing his views on the current PC market following comments made by Epic's Cliff Bleszinski that it is in ''disarray''.

''I think it's a huge tragedy. I mean, you might as well say PC gaming is World of Warcraft and The Sims... The weird thing is everyone's got a PC, they're just not buying software for it,'' commented Molyneux.

And while many developers are chasing the casual PC gaming market as the next big thing, Molyneux believes it's already suffering from repetition and a lack of imagination.

''There's an enormous amount of gaming happening with PopCap, Big Fish and Reflective.

''The fascinating thing is when they first started, all these games came out like Peggle and Mystery Files and Alice Greensleeves and Diner Dash, and it felt quite exciting. There was a lot of innovation going on. Okay, there weren't great graphics, but there was innovation.

''In my view, that has completely stopped. They're doing the same game over and over again with a different wrapper. It's like a mini-universe in itself which is emulating what's happening in our industry,'' he added.

''The second thing is, you've got The Sims and World of Warcraft sucking all the air out of the PC market. It's just incredible,'' he said.

The full interview with Peter Molyneux will be published on Eurogamer.net later this week.http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=33298 Molyneux despairs at ''tragic'' ...
Yea yea whatever, 30% of the US gaming market revenue proven today.Over a Million people playing Arena.net games alone every day at peak times ( Thats Guild Wars / Diablo / Warcraft 3 )100+ Playing Half Life 1, another 100 playing Half-Life 2 ..Games like STALKER selling nearly 2 million.Whens the last time Lionhead made a PC game? Fable %26 Black %26 White 2 both did really well, hes just jumping on what Cliffy said as if it was law >> and commenting on it.Molyneux despairs at ''tragic'' ...
yeah hermits...now its ur chance to buy a 360 and join the superior lemmingnation
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268 million PC gamers globally30% of the US market15 million active steam users10 million wow players8 million active Xfire usersCrysis 1 million 2 months, Witcher breaks 2 million, Stalker apparently at 2 million.If anyone is a tragedy its Molyneux for dramatically over-hyping his own games, only for them to collapse in on themselves. Black and White, Black and White 2 and Fable - perfect examples.
There is one thing that comes to mind when hearing Peter echo Cliffy; they shall both be answering to the same boss soon but you didn't here it from me. :)That aside, I think he and many devs are a bit frustrated with the loss of money they worked hard to get and seen too many times there efforts end up being out there free on the PC gaming side of things where something like the 360 will generate them some nice coin !
ok imagine if pc gaming died , a vast amout of profit from ati , intel , amd , nvidia would be taken away. so if ati and nvidia aint there who will make the 8 th generation console's gpu.
It seems he has absolutely no idea about casual games market on PC, so I will just assume his comment about whole pcgaming are as much nonsense as his comment on casual games
i dispair at these threads.what was the last console game that innovated anything.where is the STALKER like game on consoles, where is sins of a solar empire, where is savage 2, hell where is audiosurf (a game you can load any mp3 and not use songs given to you).........where, where thats right, now please f off.and while we are about it spore, lets say that again spore. yeah sure it might be out on consoles, but its designed for the PC.heck even far cry 2 is designed for the PC.P.S. i like Peter Molyneux even after this comment. I loved his games. i wish he had more luck with the movies on the PC. Come back to the PC, we missed ya
[QUOTE=''SecretPolice'']There is one thing that comes to mind when hearing Peter echo Cliffy; they shall both be answering to the same boss soon but you didn't here it from me. :)That aside, I think he and many devs are a bit frustrated with the loss of money they worked hard to get and seen too many times there efforts end up being out there free on the PC gaming side of things where something like the 360 will generate them some nice coin ![/QUOTE]Just like how a billion each year is lost to console pre owned games, scratch console piracy right?Perhaps Peter never thought of Digital Distribution eh.And if MS buy Epic, they had better hope they have at least two billion lying around - that stastic courtest of Mark Rein himself.
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How in the world would Molyneux know jack about PC gaming when the last major PC game he released was afew years ago, and even then that game was a complete rehash.
Every PC Gaming is Dying thread will now be spammed with the following:''He offered up stats on the US and worldwide PC games market, saying the former (not including casual games) in 2007 generated $2.76bn revenue, a year-on-year rise of 12 per cent, accounted for 30 per cent of gaming revenues in the territory, and was set to make $9.6bn - a rise of 16 per cent - in 2008. For the global games market the figures were $8.3bn in 2007, up 14 per cent, with 2008 revenues set to be $9.6bn, up for 16 per cent.

There are 263 million onlne PC gamers worldwide, added Stude, saying it was proof that the PC gaming market's death has been greatly exaggerated.''http://www.developmag.com/news/29331/The-PC-market-is-not-dying-says-newly-formed-PC-Gaming-AllianceWhat now Fanboys :P
[QUOTE=''Meu2k7'']Every PC Gaming is Dying thread will now be spammed with the following:''He offered up stats on the US and worldwide PC games market, saying the former (not including casual games) in 2007 generated $2.76bn revenue, a year-on-year rise of 12 per cent, accounted for 30 per cent of gaming revenues in the territory, and was set to make $9.6bn - a rise of 16 per cent - in 2008. For the global games market the figures were $8.3bn in 2007, up 14 per cent, with 2008 revenues set to be $9.6bn, up for 16 per cent.

There are 263 million onlne PC gamers worldwide, added Stude, saying it was proof that the PC gaming market's death has been greatly exaggerated.''http://www.developmag.com/news/29331/The-PC-market-is-not-dying-says-newly-formed-PC-Gaming-AllianceWhat now Fanboys :P [/QUOTE] i'm with you my friend. I'm gonna bookmark that thread. Amazing how fact proving threads about pc die so fast yet this kind saying its on its way out get 10 pages of reply's.
i got it book marked as well :)
[QUOTE=''doobie1975'']i dont know who these developer think they are making these claims about the state of pc gaming. what the **** do they know, theyve only worked in the industry for a decade. [/QUOTE] LMFAO is that sarcasm......
[QUOTE=''ComBaTsOuL''][QUOTE=''doobie1975'']i dont know who these developer think they are making these claims about the state of pc gaming. what the **** do they know, theyve only worked in the industry for a decade. [/QUOTE] LMFAO is that sarcasm......[/QUOTE]Yup, too bad its not the developers JOB to anaylse sales, its just his opinion, anyone can form one.
[QUOTE=''skrat_01''][QUOTE=''SecretPolice''] There is one thing that comes to mind when hearing Peter echo Cliffy; they shall both be answering to the same boss soon but you didn't here it from me. :)That aside, I think he and many devs are a bit frustrated with the loss of money they worked hard to get and seen too many times there efforts end up being out there free on the PC gaming side of things where something like the 360 will generate them some nice coin ![/QUOTE]Just like how a billion each year is lost to console pre owned games, scratch console piracy right?Perhaps Peter never thought of Digital Distribution eh.And if MS buy Epic, they had better hope they have at least two billion lying around - that stastic courtest of Mark Rein himself.[/QUOTE] Sometimes seems like you're a rep for the PC games industry - just a observation. ;)That aside, I am not attacking the PC - merely pointing out that the devs have been complaining a bit more about the ability to make a nice return on their investment or maybe they are saying they can make even more ( greedy bastards - right ? ) on the console side of gaming.Me...... I dunno. :)
Now we need some PR guy from PC Gaming Alliance team to tell Molyneux, Bleszinski and others that they are idiots, give them the real numbers and facts, so they could shut their goddamn yap.I sincerely hope that it'll happen in the future.But, on the other hand, Microsoft is in PCGA team, so they're probably in some form of conflict of interests.
Wow, another one of these?!Did I miss something? Is it ''Bash the PC week'' or something?You guys must really be running out of ideas on how to bash each others consoles to be doing this.....